EP talks about their series on seeking CLEMENCY for individuals in NYS prisons, who have already served long sentences. EP also reflects on their early experiences that may have influenced their ability to withstand "drinking the koolaid" (and believing mainstream messages about different communities). EP also shares about how EP and their partner strive to expose their son to a wider world (and also, to be able to resist "drinking the koolaid!"

Part 4 (and final segment) of interview with EP. Produced by Marsha Lazarus