At times it can be hard to tell whether you have gone to sleep or not, or how much you have slept. This can be a particular problem for people with insomnia who can be prone to under-estimating how much sleep they are actually getting. To understand how this happen we spoke to Dr Lieke Hermans from Eindhoven University of Technology, Netherlands.

Dr Moira Junge (Health Psychologist) and Dr David Cunnington (Sleep Physician) host the monthly podcast, Sleep Talk - Talking all things sleep.

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Audio Timeline / Chapters:

• 00:00 - 25:28 Theme - Awake or Asleep?
• 25:28 - 26:30 Clinical Tip
• 26:30 - 29:53 Pick of the Month
• 29:53 - 32:26 What's Coming Up?

Next episode: Light

Links mentioned in the podcast:

• Dr Hermans' research
• Addicted Australia - SBS series
• A Practical Treatise on Nervous Exhaustion (Neurasthenia) - book
• Mindfulness and Behaviour Therapy for Insomnia - research article

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