In this episode of “Faith and Friction,” Mac and The Rev discuss “wokeism” and how its meaning has been twisted into

a political and religious weapon, arguing their pastoral aim is to help people “wake up” rather than follow a single

mandated way of thinking. They criticize politics and religion “in bed together,” using Turning Point USA/TPUSA

Faith as an example, including claims about uniting the church around “primary doctrine” and eliminating wokeism

from the pulpit, which they see as faith defined by tearing something down. They contrast external political hooks

with inner spiritual transformation and defend dialogue, humility, and the examination of bias, including

discussions of racism, privilege, and the way wokeism is often equated with critical race theory. They challenge

slogans like capitalism as inherently moral and “biblical truth” as the only reliable reality, urging compassion,

cooperation, and broader understanding.