B Smith's Second Sticks catches up with a rare commodity- an production person with a actual production job! Mario Panagiotopoulos (hard "G") joins us on the pod to talk about his origins that ultimately brought him to World of Wonder, and the iconic Ru Paul's Drag Race. We reminisce about Reality Bites Back, a show that parodied reality shows that featured some of the (now) heavier hitters in comedy and deserved a better fate. We also peruse the myriad of complications that have lead us to this current production state in time, and ponder whether one of the solutions for the malaise may be vertical. And we answer the ultimate question: what do you do with two Mario P's? It's a rollicking good time on the pod!