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Gastón is a poetry-obsessed CMO whose marketing campaigns are powered by literature and code - leading him from Google to wonky vegetables, with successful stops at dating apps and AI news along the way.

Here’s some of my takeaways from this week’s episode…

1/ 🎯 Brand First, Growth Second: A strong brand narrative naturally drives growth metrics. Don't chase numbers at the expense of story—focus on building a compelling narrative that resonates with your audience and the metrics will follow.2/ 🗣️ Customer Understanding > Dashboard Data: While analytics are valuable, nothing beats direct customer observation and feedback. Post-checkout surveys asking "why did you join?" and "what concerns did you have?" provide deeper insights than surface-level metrics.3/ 🎨 B2B ≠ Boring-to-Boring: Business buyers are humans first. They're thinking about promotions, career growth, and personal success—not your product features. Connect with the human truth behind business decisions.4/ 🔄 Consistency ≠ Repetition: Brand consistency isn't about parroting the same phrases—it's about staying true to core values while varying your expression. Use different words to convey the same meaning to keep messaging fresh and engaging.5/ 🌍 Local > Global in Marketing: When scaling internationally, empower local marketing teams over centralized control. While less efficient, local teams better understand cultural nuances and market opportunities.6/ 💡 Make the Familiar Strange: The best marketing makes familiar things unfamiliar (and vice versa). Like literature, great campaigns help people see everyday things in new ways.7/ 🎭 Values > Neutrality: Don't fall into the trap of neutral, bland messaging when expanding to new markets. Local brands succeed because they speak authentically to their audience.8/ 🎓 Growth vs. Efficiency is a Trade-off: There's no perfect solution in marketing—just trade-offs. Choose whether to optimize for growth (local control, higher costs) or efficiency (central control, lower costs) based on business objectives.

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Where to find Gastón Tourn:

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gtourn/

* Oddbox: https://www.oddbox.co.uk/

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In this episode, we cover:

00:00 Introduction and Background 03:20 The Importance of Meaning in Marketing 13:48 Combining Literature and Technology 25:29 Insights from Startup Marketing 28:57 The Importance of Marketing in Product Success 32:03 Cultural Insights in Dating and Marketing 34:11 Challenges of Global Marketing Localization 36:46 The Risks of Big Brand Marketing 39:32 Balancing Centralization and Localization in Marketing 42:04 Trade-offs in Marketing Strategies 46:26 B2B Marketing: Connecting with Real People 48:47 Consistency vs. Repetition in Brand Messaging 54:24 Understanding Customer Motivations at Oddbox 57:13 The Value of Teaching and Learning from Students

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Obligatory disclaimer: I've worked at YouTube and Google for about a decade in various marketing teams. Nothing I say in my personal spaces is necessarily endorsed by them.

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