Big news! Marketing Sucks now has a co-host: my husband and new podcasting partner-in-crime, Philip Ginther. He’s also the new VP of Marketing at Grind Social! A little about Phil: he’s an award-winning creative director, expert brand storyteller, and copywriter with over 15 years of experience. As the former Senior Creative Director at Spin Master, he led massive brands including Rubik’s Cube, Paw Patrol, and Hatchimals. 

I’m super stoked to have Phil on board to share his insights and experience working with agencies, entrepreneurs, and big corporation machines. During this conversation, we talk about why he decided to ditch the corporate life, how managed chaos can keep workdays exciting, and what it’s like to work with me (yep, he answers honestly)! 

Marketing sucks. Let’s learn together. Hit play to discover:‌ ‌

• The differences between agency life and corporate life (and the big perks of going small) 
• What I’ve taught Phil about entrepreneurship — the good, the bad, and the vulnerable
• Our thoughts and ideas about the future of Marketing Sucks 

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Timestamps:‌ ‌

00:11  Intro

03:00  All about Phil

04:30  Joining Grind Social

06:57  Shifting to agency life

11:10  Entrepreneurship lessons

13:46  Phil’s pod goals

15:14  Bloated decks

16:50  Outro

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