Joyce and Han are back, mid-May, mid-chaos, mid-contemplating mortality. In this episode, they talk through what it means to build something that lasts while still paying the bills. They reflect on burnout, unsolicited advice, running face-forward brands, and how the scariest parts of growth often come with the biggest shifts. Also: Yelp elites, the labubu phenomenon, and whether or not we’re all just “damaged Asians” doing our best.