We’ve all seen the clips of churches refusing to give a struggling mom baby formula for her hungry child, but what are the real implications of this experiment? What does this actually tell us about our current society, the state of Christian Nationalism, and our relationship to community?

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• Why so many churches refused the request
• The church leaders attacking the woman
• The witch archetype as resistance and reclamation
• What Jesus actually said vs. what Christians practice
• The loneliness, repression, and fear shaping our culture
• What modern Christianity has become and what we need to do to change it, or ditch it altogether

Whether you’re deconstructing, spiritually curious, or just trying to make sense of the world right now, this episode goes there.

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References and Resources:

Find and support the TikToker, Nikalie Monroe, here: https://www.tiktok.com/@nikalie.monroe

Learn More about Richard Dawkins’ “Cultural Christianity” Claim: https://www.breakpoint.org/richard-dawkins-a-cultural-christian/

Read and Learn More about the Phoenix Pastor’s Offensive Tweet: https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/phoenix-pastor-says-church-shouldnt-help-single-mother-whores-40620567/

Learn More about the Louisiana Pastor Claiming the “Spirit of the Witch”: https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2025/11/11/did-baton-rouge-louisiana-church-deny-mother-baby-formula-for-starving-baby-tiktok-social-experiment/87212519007/

Learn More About the Tik Tok Trend and Appalachian Pastor Johnny Dunbar: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/tiktoker-calling-churches-see-help-184321348.html

Learn More about Dropping U.S. Birth Rates: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-birth-rate-all-time-low-cdc-data/

With empowered Coherence,

Dennis and Reese