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This week we bring you the second instalment of Baby J's story - this looks at the time post the Valerie remix, where hip hop started to be eclipsed by grime, sampling became harder to work with, and J realised the steadier possibilities outside music production.

He explains the route into Baby People, an organisation which has been helping disadvantaged kids to learn essential skills for surviving and thriving in society, and we get into the main challenges kids face these days.

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