We have a delightful treat for you today as we welcome back Julia Max and Ian McDonald to discuss ‘The Surrender,’ which you can now watch on Shudder. This episode is extra special because they are our very first returning guests—yes, you heard that right! Ian joined us last fall to discuss the screenplay for ‘Woman of the Hour,’ while Julia first appeared on the show when ‘The Surrender’ screened at SXSW this March.

We explore the rollercoaster of emotions that comes with sharing a deeply personal story, the challenges of distributing a slow-burn horror film, and how they navigated the demanding expectations of the filmmaking journey. We also delve into the nuances of genre audiences and discuss how crucial it is to find the right home for a film like theirs. So settle in as we explore the art of surrendering to creativity!