Hilltop packs is a backpacking cottage vendor specializing in ultralight equipment. We sit down with Ben, the owner and BS about ultralight gear, his background in photography, what's going to be the next best gear, and the sensation sweeping the 2020 gear market - the Ass-Bag. 

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