Author, editor and publisher, Hilary McPhee, joins Mel Cranenburgh to discuss her new memoir Other People’s Houses. Fleeing the aftermath of a failed marriage, Hilary began the project in the Middle East where she had travelled to write about a member of the Hashemite royal family. The book that emerged from this was not the book she had anticipated but instead became a welcome exploration of the changes that she underwent at this time in her life. The result is, as one reviewer notes, ‘inspiring’. Mel is then joined by Lucy Treloar, author of Salt Creek (2015), winner of the Indie Award for Best Debut, the ABIA Matt Richell Award and the Dobbie Award, and shortlisted for prizes including the Miles Franklin Literary Award and the UK's Walter Scott Prize. Her latest book, Wolfe Island, has been met with similar acclaim with The Age describing it as ‘deeply moving’. Set on a dying island sinking into the wind-lashed Chesapeake Bay, the main protagonist, Kitty Hawke, confronts a fraught world - one that threatens all of us - with flight, exile and bewilderment.