Jess interviews actress and fellow NYU grad, Jen Jacob, about landing her newest role-playing Ashley Morgan on Beyond the Gates-- the first daytime soap opera TV show in 30+ years. They talk about finding humor in rejection, bad auditions, tools to combat critical self-talk, and online trolls.

Host: Jess Kaplan @Jessbkaplan

Guest: Jen Jacob @Jen.Jacob

Original Music: Ariana and the Rose @Arianaandtherose

Edited by: Peter Ney

For more about the podcast, go to: Nopesanddreams.com