On Episode 45, Kevin and Jac, welcome Sam Ndely, Co-founder of Graveti. We talk about his new role as the Director of Director of Employer Inclusivity at the Center for Economic Inclusion, social justice in Minnesota, and life balance.

Every episode we ask our guest to name drop someone doing cool things in the tech community. Sam gives a shout out to Silas Wellington (Upscribbr), Mike Jackson (Black Tech Talent), Isaiah Goodman (MoneyVerbs), Darrin Levine (ASDAL), and Caroline Karanja (26 Letters).