Fresh off a trip to Baltimore, we break down what the experience really taught us—about conventions, craftsmanship, and the people who still take pride in doing things the right way. But the conversation doesn’t stop there.

We dig into the growing frustrations monument builders are facing with cemeteries: shifting rules, weekend demands, power struggles, and the fallout caused by shortcuts taken by others in the industry. From forced installs and inconsistent policies to customers who think they own your schedule, this episode gets honest about where the real headaches are coming from.

Along the way, we talk design philosophy, quality vs. convenience, and why “traditional” has become an excuse instead of a standard. It’s a wide-ranging, unscripted conversation about craftsmanship, boundaries, and why doing it right still matters—no matter how complicated the process gets.

If you’ve ever dealt with cemetery red tape, unrealistic expectations, or wondered how to push your work beyond the cookie-cutter norm, this one’s for you.