On the latest episode of the Defire Podcast we have a wide-ranging conversation with Luzius Meisser, a leading entrepreneur, investor, and the Chairman of Bitcoin Suisse. Luzius shares his vision: why the world's National Banks might soon hold Bitcoin in their reserves. Discover why Switzerland is the go-to haven for crypto innovators. Plus, get a firsthand look into Luzius's newest venture, Aktionariat, an ambitious project aimed at tokenizing shares of startups and small companies. Imagine a currency anchored and buoyed by the heart of the economy – its enterprises.