This episode of To a Certain Degree sees Nick interview filmmaker, performance artist, writer, storyteller, and all around renaissance guy Banks Helfrich.

And he's funny, so you're in for a treat when you listen to this episode. I guess then it's a treat for your ears? And your brain. And maybe your hands, if you want to gesticulate wildly along with the recording. That's a really good idea for a podcast, hand signals for the listener. Can we get someone on that?