Bao and I discuss her lived Hmong experience: being born in a refugee camp, immigration and citizenship. She tells hard truths of what it was like. From being a victim of a secret war, to becoming a writer and starting a nonprofit to help Hmong farmers in need, we cover it all. She wraps up with what her and every community needs more of. 

Check out her book Folklore and her nonprofit. 

the PBS documentary “The Hmong and The Secret War.” The Child Solders of Vang Pao