In this episode of The Lock In, I speak with Barry Chapman.

Barry Chapman may not be a familiar name, but he was the driving force behind Triple J, Australia's national youth radio network and Channel [V] music television that launched some of Australia's biggest bands.

Barry now lives in Spain during the winter and Scotland during the summer. I speak to him about his escape from Spain, and driving through 3 countries, before the state of emergency kicked in.

He also gives some thoughts for musicians and creativity in these times.

Barry is my wife's former boss. You will hear her in this episode too.