Although only 2% of the US have adopted a child, studies show that 1/3 of couples have talked about building their families through adoption. This week, our guests Josh and Phill fall into both groups!

We had such a great interview with them that we had to turn this episode into two parts! In this episode, you'll learn about how their relationship started, what a non-negotiable was for Josh when he was looking for a partner, and how long it took (or didn't) to get to hold their baby boy Oliver.