We were pleased to welcome Mike Smith to the podcast for a number of reasons. First, I was so interested in the creative outlet he has maintained over the years, and I think a lot of us can relate to the need for something aside from work and chores and responsibility to focus on. Of course, given the year we have all had, this need has become even greater. On this episode we get a chance to talk to Mike about how music has been a part of his life, what has influenced him, and we get some specific insights into the latest Ocean Empire release, Summerland. We hope this will provide some inspiration to our audience to find their own outlet. The opening of Summerland is previewed at the very end of the episode. The poem read by e.e. cummings in in the public domain.