It was enlightening to spend time chatting with Dr. Kelly Kapic about humility, suffering and how to be a lover of God by embracing finitude. We explore themes of psychology and theology finding their intersections in the Christian life. I felt encouraged and lighter after this conversation. I felt like many hard and heavy aspects of life are actually quite simple as I learn and grow to be like Jesus. Faithfully, imperfectly, and beautifully human.

Enjoy!

Resources:

A lot of books come up in this episode!

The Soul of Desire by Dr. Curt Thompson

Find all of Kelly's books here as well as contact information for potential speaking gigs.

When Helping Hurts by Steve Corbet and Brian Fikkert

Make Sense of Your Story by Adam Young

Kid's Say the Darnedest Things is the title of the episode with my kids. I couldn't remember what I titled it in while recording so here it is!

Kelly mentions our mutual friend Dr. Scott Jones.