Most of us have faced some sort of bullying as a kid.

But, as we grow up and become adults, we don't expect to ever have to face it again.

Today's guest, Shabane Williams, shares with us the moment she realized that bullies don't stop because childhood ends and how she learned to stand up for herself and others.

She lets us in on her passion to make a difference.

A difference in young girls lives, especially young girls of color.

A difference in serving the public.

This passion fuels her work in civil rights.

She takes us on the journey of how anger fueled her to push forward and helped her find her voice.

We chat about the importance of communication within a team and Shabane gets raw with us about the weight of silence she felt in her workplace with recent events in society, such as those that happened with Ms. Breonna Taylor.

Shabane & I also have a great laugh with Gal Gab!

This episode contains profanity and may cause a triggered response.