In this episode, we dive into the real reasons behind our quarterly beach cleanups—and it’s way deeper than just picking up trash.

We talk about how these cleanups became a ritual, how they give us clarity, and why doing something small for the planet feels better than almost anything else. There’s also some real talk about sustainability in our businesses, especially how I’ve built my haircare line around minimal waste, glass packaging, and clean ingredients.

From fatherhood and fears of setting goals, to how vision boards actually helped me manifest a travel trailer, this convo goes everywhere—but somehow lands exactly where it needs to.

Topics We Covered

• The story behind our beach cleanups and how it’s grown

• Creating sustainable products and cleaner business practices

• Why I don’t set long-term goals—and what I do instead

• My philosophy on parenting and embracing detours

• Struggling with commitment (even to vision boards)

• Bonus: Aliens, drones, and who we’d rather fight—a shark or E.T.