Look, not all of them are winners. To get to the rainbow you have to brave a little rain... or whatever Dolly Parton said. This might not be our best episode ever, but it's certainly AN episode, and quite honestly, you miss 100% of the shots you take....wait....no.

This episode, Jon and Anna discuss Chip Gaines' weird extended family, various slammed poems, and how to market a podcast that is on wildly thin ice these days.

As a side note, we lost the audio to about 10 minutes of this episode. I created the greatest character ever. And now he is dead because of our editing software. Rest in peace, Bregdalin. You were the best of us.