In this episode the tables have turned and I had the privilege to be interviewed by second year students and RealMD facilitators, Elise Vandamme and Poi Gilmore. We talk about my journey into academic medicine and how RealMD and the RISE conference came to be. A central message about knowing yourself being the foundation of leadership development came through. I wasn’t expecting to see such a strong theme run throughout my non-linear career path. This episode serves as a reminder of the value of talking through your experiences and learning more about who you are with trusted colleagues. Knowing yourself will help you lead.