Episode #34 of “Becoming a post-growth planner: obstacles and challenges to changing roles and practices” with Dr Julia Grosinger (ICTA-UAB, Barcelona, Spain). In conversation with Dr Christian Lamker (University of Groningen, the Netherlands).

"Post-growth planning is not happening on the grid; it's something which happens in the mindsets of people". Discussing spatial, social, and emotional aspects of degrowth in rural areas throughout Europe. Understanding 'the backbone of human survival' and distinct narratives and experiences in rural areas and small municipalities. Identifying loved keystone places in participatory methods, walking interviews, and arts-based research. Highlighting the role of planned and unplanned spaces for meeting and fulfilling human needs for identity, leisure, and participation. Beyond romanticising degrowth to understanding values like care, conviviality, and solidarity, in rural contexts and connecting to existing social and physical infrastructures - "because we cannot go back the way we came from".