Researchers Arthur Gwagwa and Deb Raji join our host, Natalie Kerby, to discuss data, AI, and automation, and the different ways they operate across geopolitical contexts such as the US and Africa. The episode covers not only the harms that can result from these systems, but also how we might address and prevent those harms.

Arthur Gwagwa (@arthurgwagwa) is a researcher at Utrecht University’s Ethics Institute in the Department of Philosophy.

Deb Raji (@rajiinio) is a fellow at Mozilla and works closely with the Algorithmic Justice League.

"Becoming Data" is co-produced by Data & Society and Public Books.