In this episode, Zachary and renowned author Normandi Ellis, explore the healing properties of poetry, following your destiny in chaotic times, and dare we say, the meaning of it all.

Explore Normandi's work: https://normandiellis.com/

Mix x Score by Kevin Joseph Grossmann

Cover photo by Erick Madrid

Song: “The Monster is Your Friend” > https://soundcloud.com/zacharymurdock/the-monster-is-your-friend-1?in=zacharymurdock/sets/scout-the-album

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