Listen to Kimi give insight on what it's like to "shop in place" by cleaning out closets and storage spaces. Kimi shares the connection between organizing the public distribution of 60,000 N95 masks during Northern California's fires of the last couple of years and her current project making and selling cloth masks now for the pandemic. How can you buy time by making space? How can one seed feed up to 6 birds? How did personal protection around health become the most central organizing issue of our time? And finally we talk prototyping mask updates, based on what we are learning from wearing them all the time these days.