Patrick Miller sits at the intersection of cybersecurity and regulation because, as he likes to say, "those two don't fit well." Beyond his decades of work in the space, he also co-founded BEER-ISAC, a network of individuals who comprise the human component of critical infrastructure security. They share war stories, information, intelligence and - as the name says - drinks. In this episode, Patrick explains the difference between compliance and security in the evolving space defending critical infrastructure.