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Imagine taking a walk with Columbian mammoths, giant sloths, lions, sabre-tooth tigers, camels and loads of other animals? Sounds crazy, right! Yet it actually happened 20,000 years ago and in this episode Dr. Erich talk to Noah and Colton about some seriously cool discoveries at White Sands National Monument in New Mexico. 

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In this hair-larious episode, Dr. Erich chats with Jake and Colton all about red hair, genetics, and some super cool things we might’ve gotten from our ancient cousins—the Neanderthals! 

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In this episode, Dr. Erich and Colton dive into a wild idea—bringing back the woolly mammoth! How are scientists doing it? Believe it or not…some scientists think it starts with woolly mice!  Yep, you heard that right. WOOLLY MICE! Join us for a super fun and funny chat about some very fluffy science. You won’t want to miss this one! 

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There is unambiguous agreement that early humans had to cross open water when they traveled from Sundaland to Sahul before 40,000 years ago. How were they able to do this and would ocean winds and currents have helped or hindered their voyages? In this episode we talk to Kiki Kuijjer and Bob Marsh, both from the University of Southampton, about flow modeling that potentially reveals how humans may have been able to make their fantastical journeys. 

Key People

Robert Marsh

Kiki Kuijjer

Further Reading

Kuijjer, E. Kiki, et al. "Changing Tidal Dynamics and the Role of the Marine Environment in the Maritime Migration to Sahul: Special Issue: The Impact of Upper Pleistocene Climatic and Environmental Change on Hominin Occupations and Landscape Use, Part 1." PaleoAnthropology 2022.1 (2022): 134-148. 

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Sea levels rise and fall in response to complex planetary drivers, including shifts in polar ice caps, land masses, and other factors. Understanding these processes is crucial for studying prehistory in deep time, including human migration from Sundaland to Sahul and the movement of people around the globe. In this episode, Justin Dix breaks down what drives sea level change, how scientists reconstruct past sea levels, and how these fluctuations have shaped human history. 

Key People

Justin Dix

Key Places

Bonaparte Gulf

Key Concepts

Gravity Earth Model (aka the lumpy potato)

Further Reading

Anthony Fogg, Justin Dix, Helen Farr. Late Pleistocene Palaeo Environment Reconstruction from 3D Seismic data, NW Australia.The ACROSS project - Australasian Research: Origins of Seafaring to Sahul.  Authorea. January 06, 2020. 

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In this episode, we speak with Before Us co-host Helen Farr about her European Research Council project, Australasian Colonisation Research: Origins of Seafaring to Sahul—or simply, ACROSS. This ambitious project dives into oceanographic, geoscience, archaeological, and archaeogenetic data to figure out when and how people first made the journey to Sahul, what routes they might’ve taken, and just how long they were stuck in a boat. Spoiler: it wasn’t a weekend trip. These early voyages don’t just tell us about getting to Sahul—they also help us understand the bigger picture of how modern humans spread around the world. Think of it as the original travel blog...but with fewer selfies and more science. 

Key People

Helen Farr

Key Places

Bonaparte Gulf

Key Projects

ACROSS Project

Further Reading

Anthony Fogg, Justin Dix, Helen Farr. Late Pleistocene Palaeo Environment Reconstruction from 3D Seismic data, NW Australia.The ACROSS project - Australasian Research: Origins of Seafaring to Sahul.  Authorea. January 06, 2020. 

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The rapid dispersal of modern humans across Wallacea to modern day Australia not only required boat technology for long-distance sea travel, but also knowledge about deep-sea fishing. In this episode, we talk to Sue O’Connor about the different routes that people may have taken across Wallacea in the Pleistocene and how the different kinds of islands on those routes may have influenced maritime resource use and the earliest evidence of pelagic fishing. 

Key People

Susan O'Connor - Australian National University

Key Sites / Concepts

Asitau Kuru / Jerimalai

O'Connor, Sue, Ono, Rintaro, and Clarkson, Chris. Pelagic Fishing at 42,000 Years Before the Present and the Maritime Skills of Modern Humans.Science334,1117-1121(2011).DOI:10.1126/science.1207703

Kisar

O’Connor, S., Mahirta, Kealy, S., Boulanger, C., Maloney, T., Hawkins, S., … Louys, J. (2018). Kisar and the Archaeology of Small Islands in the Wallacean Archipelago. The Journal of Island and Coastal Archaeology, 14(2), 198–225. https://doi.org/10.1080/15564894.2018.1443171 

Laili

 O’Connor, Sue, Ceri Shipton, and Shimona Kealy. "The southern route to Sahul: modern human dispersal and adaptation in the pleistocene." The Prehistory of Human Migration-Human Expansion, Resource Use, and Mortuary Practice in Maritime Asia. IntechOpen, 2023. 

Shipton, C., Morley, M.W., Kealy, S. et al. Abrupt onset of intensive human occupation 44,000 years ago on the threshold of Sahul. Nat Commun 15, 4193 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-024-48395-x 

Maritime Networks

O’Connor, S., Kealy, S., Reepmeyer, C., Samper Carro, S. C., & Shipton, C. (2022). Terminal Pleistocene emergence of maritime interaction networks across Wallacea. World Archaeology, 54(2), 244–263. https://doi.org/10.1080/00438243.2023.2172072

Pleistocene female burial with fish hooks

 O’Connor S, Mahirta, Samper Carro SC, et al. Fishing in life and death: Pleistocene fish-hooks from a burial context on Alor Island, Indonesia. Antiquity. 2017;91(360):1451-1468. doi:10.15184/aqy.2017.186 

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In this special bonus episode, Erich answers some of the fantastic questions that we've received from listeners around the world. If you want to send us your own questions about anything you've heard on Before Us, or just comment in general, please hit the "send us a text" button above every episode description. We would love to hear from you!

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The discovery of Homo floresiensis and Homo luzonensis in SE Asia raises big questions about what happened to some early populations of migrants. Here, John McNabb, explains how these discoveries re-shape our understanding of human evolution and human migrations, but also what the world was like when modern humans began to expand out of Africa. It may have been much more crowded than previously thought!

Key Site

Liang Bua

Mata menge

Dmanisi

Key People

John McNabb (Mac)

Mike Morewood

Key Hominids

Homo floresiensis

Homo luzonensis

Homo erectus

Denisovan

More Reading

Brumm, A., van den Bergh, G., Storey, M. et al. Age and context of the oldest known hominin fossils from Flores. Nature 534, 249–253 (2016). https://doi.org/10.1038/nature17663 

Baab, K. L. (2012) Homo floresiensis: Making Sense of the Small-Bodied Hominin Fossils from Flores . Nature Education Knowledge 3(9):4 

Détroit, F., Mijares, A.S., Corny, J. et al. A new species of Homo from the Late Pleistocene of the Philippines. Nature 568, 181–186 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-019-1067-9 

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Why did humans migrate out of Africa? This question has long puzzled archaeologists. Were they driven by unknown pressures, drawn by opportunities, or was it something else entirely? Best-selling author and researcher Clive Gamble explores how curiosity may have fueled the human expansion out of Africa and how the development of the concept of 'containers' was crucial for technological innovations, such as boats.

Key People

Clive Gamble