Here is the link for the article references in the episode:

Read This Before You Downsize Your Church or Ministry Staff: https://www.philcooke.com/read-this-before-you-downsize-your-church-or-ministry-staff/

For more information and to connect with Phil Check him out at his website:

https://www.philcooke.com

And to check out the company he founded:

https://cookemediagroup.com

To connect with us you can go to the website:

https://strategicmin.com

Or email me directly

[email protected]