Amelia and Edan share their friendship origin story and talk about the pleasures and pitfalls of making "mom friends." At 22:30, they interview doctor and illustrator Grace Farris about the ways motherhood has impacted her career or at least the way she looks at her career, and what led her to draw about her life as a mother. She also shares the one intense childbirth experience that medical school did *not* prepare her for.   Links to what we mention Support us!