"I have never once & I never will put on a job application a question about former felony convictions. It doesn't make anybody any safer."

Trina & Alfonso walk through statistics, real life impacts, & lived experiences connected to how employers are currently interacting with folks who have been touched by the criminal justice system. They break down the difference between thinking that there are criminals or there are felonies & thinking that there are people who have former felony convictions. This episode is really about addressing how often organizations & individuals are deciding that a specific behavior or action means something about a whole person.