In this episode of Behind the Checkout, Gr4vy CEO and Founder John Lunn sits down with Soups Ranjan — Co-founder and CEO of Sardine, and one of the sharpest voices in fraud prevention — to unpack the reality of agentic commerce and what it means for the future of payments.
From AI agents negotiating and paying without human approval to the rise of “machine customers,” they explore how transaction flows, authentication, and fraud detection will need to evolve when money moves at machine speed. They discuss which industries will be disrupted first, where the biggest risks lie, and why control over data and orchestration could become the new competitive battleground.