This episode features my good friend Jacob Gerstman. In this episode we talk about the short film that we had worked on over the last 7 months; A Better America. The film was released on 1/11/21 on his YouTube channel "Gerstman Films" and my Instagram podcast account @realtalkoywak. In this episode we uncover how this short film came to be, our emotions through the process, things that we learned, things that we overcame, and so many other topics. The film was a grind, but now that it's in the rearview, we decided it was a great time to reflect on the journey.