In this episode of No One Fights Alone, Ben and Brad dive into what it means to really show up for others and ourselves. Through stories of ride-alongs with law enforcement (not as a criminal, we promise!) and firefighters across the country, Ben, as a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), reflects on what he’s learned sitting shotgun in squad cars.

From awkward intros and suspicion to unexpected connection and trust, this conversation reveals how shared space, when approached with curiosity, can spark understanding, empathy, and even healing. The guys explore why every civilian should experience a ride-along or a 12-step meeting, and how getting outside your own bubble shifts perspective in powerful ways.

You’ll also hear:

• The emotional weight of the job that most never see
• The “human behind the badge” that media often misses
• Why slowing down to observe is essential for cultural competency
• What happens when a clinical director rides along—and what officers think he's really there for