It's episode 30 ya'll!!!! You're going to love all 30+ minutes of this introspective take of Black in the Middle.

The fellas reflect on how a little idea has turned into a continuous conversation of race relations, personal and professional development and so much more.

Herman gets vulnerable and discovers something about himself.

Tim brings up a couple pitfalls and challenges BITM has overcome.

Travis exclaims his vision for the podcast and how having conversations like these help you evolve.

Lots of jokes, lots of stories and lots of quotables and the beginnings of a #VERZUZ battle in this episode!