Today is the day when Ashley and I (Jenna ) fully come out of the perfectionism / behind the scenes closet. We want to invite you in to learn a little bit more about us and how + why we came to do what we do.

If you’ve ever wondered who the heck we are and what makes us want to host a podcast -- and start a movement -- around giving the middle finger to perfection, then this is the episode you’ve been waiting for.