In this episode, Karen and Sirianna have their first guest, Nick Utter, join them to discuss Nick’s journey in becoming a social worker. This episode touches on confronting whiteness and white saviorism, deconstructing spaces built on white supremacy, and a lot of other important topics as they intersect with the field of social work.

Disclaimer: This episode makes mention of suicide- please listen with caution.

Theme song: Music by Anton_Vlasov from Pixabay

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Book mentioned: The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale