Toby (20) and Iman (24) were both young carers for their dads from childhood into their teens, and discuss the responsibilities of caring for a seriously ill parent. In this episode, they explore their different grief journeys but also find plenty of common ground. The conversation covers the impact on their childhoods, grieving while someone is alive, and feelings of both relief and guilt when they die. Content warning: chronic illness, kidney failure, suicide, grief, deathPlease rate and subscribe to help us reach more grieving young people. This episode was recorded over Zoom. This podcast is brought to you by Talk Grief powered by Winston’s Wish, the UK’s first children and young people’s bereavement charity. Created by the Winston’s Wish Youth Team Produced and Edited by Jess, Winston’s Wish Connect with us onInstagram @winstonswish TikTok @talkgriefUK YouTube @WinstonsWishCharity If you're affected by any of the issues in this episode and would like support with your grief, Winston's Wish can support anyone aged 25 or under. You can reach us on weekdays (8am-8pm): ☎️ 08088 020 021 📧 [email protected] 💬 Live chat winstonswish.org or talkgrief.org 📱 Text or WhatsApp 07418 341 800