Sharon is afraid of being called a “Karen.” She’s so afraid of this that she doesn’t even ask for the manager when she experiences bad service. And she’s not alone! 

In this episode, we connect with author and sociologist Dr. Jessie Daniels. Dr. Daniels is an expert on the internet’s manifestation of racism. She wrote a book about being called a “Karen” titled “Nice White Ladies.” She breaks down the history of the name, the stigma surrounding it, and what fear of the name says about society’s mindset and the current culture of accountability. 

Learn more about Dr. Daniels' work here.

Host: Larry Mullins

Producers: Jill Webb and Dempsey Pillot

Audio Engineer: Anddy Egan-Thorpe

Managing Producer of Podcasts: Femi Redwood 

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