Welcome.

This is the first episode in a new podcast format. I will be releasing two episodes a month, each will be between 15 and 30 minutes, and will have two guests.

Our conversation will have the following format:

* Intro: What are you interested in?

* Conversation prompts, from creative-surplus.com

* Outro: What can we wish you?

Thank you, Marcus, and Sascha.

About the guests:

Marcus occasionally publishes a newsletter, which you can read at Gaining Systemic Insight, and you can learn more about Sascha’s work at his website mombartz.com.

Colophon: I use Descript to help with editing. Everyone used their own audio equipment.

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