Lou and Eden return - with a jingle, and two more topics of interest: The Pope & Imagining Sustainable Futures.

With discussion touching on the works of Rob Hopkins, Robert Harris and Richard Powers, this episode honours white men with names starting with R and creative & intellectual brilliance to boot. Oh, and those snazzy papal robes.

Stick around and count how many times Pete the cat makes his opinions known (HINT: it was at least twice as much before editing). Thanks for tuning in!