This conversation focused on exploring the concept of presence and its importance in various aspects of life, including coaching, legal practice, and personal relationships. Cari and Spencer discussed their personal experiences with presence, with Cari sharing how embracing imperfections led to self-acceptance and Spencer reflecting on how presence and grace connect in coaching and meditation practices. The conversation concluded with Spencer sharing his journey of improving presence in different areas of his life, particularly in coaching baseball and his marriage, emphasizing the transformative power of being fully present in the moment.

Spencer Lee is an immigration attorney based in Phoenix and the founder of Saguaro Legal. He has been practicing immigration law since 2016, with a focus on removal defense, asylum, waivers, family-based immigration, and federal litigation. His work sits at the intersection of law, humanity, and long-term strategy. Spencer is deeply committed to doing this work not just correctly, but thoughtfully—prioritizing clarity, dignity, and real advocacy. He is building a firm centered on “client astonishment,” where clients feel seen, informed, and respected rather than processed.

Originally from Logan, Utah, Spencer has lived in Mesa since 2015 and is a husband and father who places family at the center of his life. His faith, love of travel, and appreciation for meaningful experiences strongly shape how he approaches both life and work. He values honesty, strong systems, and personal growth, and he is intentional about designing a life and business that allow for presence, perspective, and depth—not just productivity.

Spencer has dedicated years to volunteer service with local consulates, particularly the Guatemalan and Mexican Consulates, providing free legal consultations and support to immigrant families with limited access to resources. Service has been a constant thread throughout his life, from earlier faith-based service to his ongoing commitment to access, education, and dignity in the immigration process. For Spencer, immigration law is not just a profession—it is a calling to advocate, serve, and help families build stable and hopeful futures.