Ben Betterby hangs out with Caleb T. Jones!!!

Caleb is an accomplished comedian, film-maker, intelligent martial artist, and Ben Betterby's friend.

Caleb and Ben talk about Ben getting his heart broken, the difference between white people and black people in the bar, stand-up comedy, a clown at the zoo, a friend who lost on a game show, us trying to fit in with other comedians, men and women hitting each other, Louis CK, Ben going to the zoo. 

WARNING: CALEB TOUCHED THE MICROPHONE STAND A FEW TIMES!!! (SORRY)