...with the immigration, ChatGTP, and what's in the mechanic's freezer. Plus, an extended conversation about the salvation of robots.

"Ben doesn't know what's going on..." is a series where local church pastor Benjamin Lee learns the latest news he's kind of heard about, but hasn't really paid attention to. Hopefully, with the help of Daniel Silliman, news editor for Christianity Today, he will be able to know a little bit more about what is going on.