OLTP ends the "educrats series" in California with a look inside the belly of the beast of the California Department of Education (CDE). This time, we hear the perspective of educator Ben Kingsbury. Ben serves as a program consultant in the CDE. He offers deep insights, not only on the bureaucracy but also on his journey, which takes us to Saudi Arabia and we land with a dope reference to the GAP Band. Ben's journey reminds us of the old adage you cannot judge a book by its cover...ever. Fascinating and fun! Dr. Hollie's two cents raises the question, why do we to continue to believe in  an educational system that has perpetually not equitably served all students? How many chances does the system get? Listen in for the answer.

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