From his first band Noise Addict and debut solo record 'Grandpaw Would' through to his recent collaborations with Josh Radnor (Radnor & Lee) and 'Quarter Century Classix' covers album, a lot has gone on in Ben Lee's more than 25-year career. Ben chats with Brisbane-based music journalist Daniel Johnson about everything from bravado and spirituality, to being an Australian in Donald Trump's America during the COVID-19 pandemic and Black Lives Matter protests.